Esther Perel

What would be your advice as to how to structure these check-ins so that they can be effective but not end up with us feeling resentful or annoyed?

Sorry, what's that?

Explain that again.

Right.

Okay.

I'm just going to write this down.

Hang on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You mentioned the word trust before, and I know trust is a word that you must talk about more than most people in your life and a word that you would think about.

I had an example from my life where I saw how corrosive trust can be.

We did a live show in Geelong, which is about an hour away from here.

And Penny came along to the show and so did one of my best friends.

And he was talking to us after the show and Penny was there and we were having a lovely chat.

And we had a show the next night and Penny said to me, oh, where are you staying tonight?

Because we have a place down at the beach.

And Geelong was halfway between our home and where the beach house is.

And I paused for a minute because I thought I was heading back to Melbourne with the family, but I thought, oh, I could get an extra night's sleep here before the show and have a good rest.

And so I didn't answer straight away.