Ethan Mollick

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Given the jaggedness, though, it's not everything, but a lot of things.

But then also, how much we don't want that to be the answer a lot of the time.

Well, let's start with a really extreme example.

There is a company called StrongDM.

That's a small software security company.

And they decided to build the software dark factory.

So a dark factory is an idea for robotics that if the entire factory is operated by robots, we don't need lights.

So it's a dark factory because there's no humans in it.

So they built a software dark factory.

What you feed into it is specifications, not even specifications, basically roadmaps for where you want your product to go.

And they have two rules.

No human can write code and no human can look at code.

Everything is written by AIs and there's adversarial AIs that test the code.

And there's adversarial AIs spontaneously built fake Slack and fake Gmail and fake Salesforce to test these security and authentication models.

And then all that comes out is finished code, and you just approve or don't approve shipping.

And they've shipped products to customers without a human ever touching any part of the code base.

There are other rules.

You have to spend $1,000 in tokens per person per day, which is also quite expensive.

But that's an example of a really radical version of agent work, right?

We take the humans out of the loop entirely.

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