Ethan

Subban on ESPN, or Anson Carter, as you mentioned earlier, or even if you look at more like regional broadcasts, right?

Back in Montreal, Georges Larraque hosts his own radio show and talks about hockey.

Yeah, like it's so many different guys who have made their names in that space as black hockey players who have found ways into the media space.

And I think that could totally resonate with young people who, you know, if they don't see themselves playing, maybe an opportunity to cover the sport as another way in.

And I'll go one step further.

you know, Mike Greer as GM of an NHL team.

I've always been the belief where, yes, it's good when you get people who are featured on air or on ice in this instance, but if you get more people who work behind the scenes, that is a huge key.

So seeing a guy like Mike Greer rise up to become a GM of the San Jose Sharks, seeing someone like Brett Peterson become an AGM with the Florida Panthers after being a player agent, or Eustace King was a player agent, or John Osei Tutu, another player agent, like...

It's not just black hockey players or black referees.

You got to mention black referees, too.

Like, oh, yeah, the impact of black people on the sport of hockey.

It's it's there.

It's it's apparent.

And it shouldn't be something that people have to go sifting through and looking for.

It shouldn't just be a thing where, you know, if black people decide we're going to go to a hockey game and we watch a game, we're just like, man, it's just these white boys fighting each other.

No, there's we exist.

We're in this sport.

There's a presence of us.

It shouldn't.

And the more that's shown at the forefront, the less of a surprise it is for everybody.