Eugene Daniels

And so they're driving longer, right?

They're driving 50 miles sometimes in a day from home to work to the grocery store.

And that impact they care about.

But the kind of, you know, whether we went to war, right?

Like that aspect of it is hard for them to grasp sometimes.

I do.

And I think there's the MAGA base who isn't going to go anywhere, right?

In 2018, when I was at Politico, we went to Iowa and we went to a soybean farm.

And the soybean farm, this is when he was having his first fight with China over soybeans and tariffs.

And the farmer had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in months.

And I asked him, he was a Trump voter, I said, so do you blame Donald Trump?

Are you upset with him?

He said, I have to believe that he has a plan.

And I think like that has led me to believe that Trump can convince these folks that voted for him and supported for him, the hardcore folks, right?

to believe anything, right?

He has this uncanny political ability to convince people of anything and make them doubt their own eyes and ears, right?

When they really support them.

I also think, back to that psychology aspect, it's very hard to say that you were wrong, right?

Like, you can ask my husband.

It's very difficult for me to be like, you know, I messed up.