Eva Vlaardingerbroek

Like, how come that you believe in a fairy tale?

That is like the status quo in my country.

And I think that

That also explains why we've gone down the deep end as far as we have, because people don't recognize even...

they don't recognize the idea or the concept of good and evil.

So if you don't see that, if you don't believe that God exists, if you don't believe that good exists, then you don't believe that evil exists.

And so you will just always write it off as incompetence at best.

Or you'll say, no, that's just a different viewpoint or everything is relative.

And that's exactly what has gotten us where we are today.

Exactly.

I mean, the country is on a great path, isn't it?

Indeed, really, really bad long-term strategy, but also really, really bad short-term strategy.

Because people aren't happy.

Young people aren't fulfilled.

They don't know what to do with their lives.

They lack purpose.

They lack meaning.

Of course.

Of course you do.

So it's both bad in the long run and in the short run.