Evan Lucas
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1,534 appearances
4 recordings
1 series
first heard Jun 2022
last heard Jan 2023
Evan Lucas’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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It's just that second pause.
It's only one second just to go, oh, actually, yeah, okay, that's fine.
Yeah, no, need to think about that a bit more.
Need to do a bit more insight into that.
And it will stop you from making a mistake.
Because, yeah, fast thinking is good, but it is short-cutting.
The title is, you know, fraud is some form of finance.
Yeah.
Outside of Fyre, what was the other most standout story?
And how many podcasts have you got off Theranos?
I've listened to most of them.
The ABC one is probably the best one.
The Dropout is an incredible one because, again...
What I was going to ask you the next step about this is that
What's also, does she go through the idea about how people become fraudsters?
Because Elizabeth Holmes is a fascinating study from the point of view that she, to this day, and she's now been not only found guilty, she's actually been sentenced to 11 and a half years in jail.
She still doesn't believe that she necessarily defrauded people because she was so involved and ended up being so mentally trapped by her principle that she didn't realize that, well, in her eyes, and I don't want to sort of trivialize this,
that what she was doing was fine because the principal outcome she'd already reached, which is that the diagnosis of blood samples from a pinprick would revolutionize the health of the world.
So she had an absolutely audacious, brilliant goal.
The thing is the in-between, the actual thing that needed to work was completely flawed and she was clearly using money to use a flawed system that wasn't going to work.
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