Evan Ratliff

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe I still played a little bit.

but they weren't super pumped either.

It felt like it was right in that area.

Only your neighborhood best friend knew about it.

And it's funny looking back historically, like it was right in that zone where it was just enough to keep it going.

Your school friends didn't.

Exactly.

So G.I.

Joe was a cartoon, then they for the first time, basically it became a commando team, an anti-terrorist commando team that had all kinds of characters and they had finally had a common enemy which was of course Cobra.

And you wonder kind of the sliding doors pathways that the gaming world would have taken had it sold 30,000 units, you know?

Yeah, for sure.

I saw somebody say like Nintendo, had Nintendo not been successful, like the games as we know them today would definitely not exist.

Yes, led by Cobra Commander.

And this was right in your wheelhouse, correct?

We'd still be playing checkers like a bunch of dopes.

Yeah, so in 1983, I was like seven.

Yeah, and going outside.

Who needs it?