Ezra Klein
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first heard Mar 2026
last heard 11 Sep
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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026
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They are shaking the stock market.
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The S&P 500 Software Industry Index has fallen by 20%, wiping billions of dollars in value out.
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Excellent engineers, people I've known for years, people who are quite skeptical of AI hype, they're emailing me now to say they don't see how their job will possibly exist in a year or two.
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We are at a new stage of AI development.
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Not just development, we are at a new stage of AI products.
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I thought the way Sequoia, the venture capital firm, put it was actually pretty helpful.
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The AI applications of 2023 and 2024 were talkers.
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Some were very sophisticated conversationalists, but their impact was limited.
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The AI applications of 2026 and 2027 will be doers.
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Or to put it differently, something that's been predicted for a long time has now happened.
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We are moving from chatbots to agents, from systems that talk to you to systems that act for you.
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And this world of agents, it's already weird.
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They're agents plural.
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They can work together.
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They can oversee each other.
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People are running swarms of these agents on their behalf.
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Whether that is making them at this stage more productive or just busier, I can't quite tell.
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But it is now possible to have what amounts to a team of incredibly fast, although to be honest, somewhat peculiar software engineers at your beck and call at all times.
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Jack Clark is a co-founder and head of policy at Anthropic, the company behind Claude and Claude Code.
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And for years now, Clark has been tracking the capabilities of different models in the weekly newsletter Import AI, which has been one of my key reads for following developments in AI.
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