Ezra Klein

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

People are running swarms of these agents on their behalf. voice-verified

Whether that is making them at this stage more productive or just busier, I can't quite tell. voice-verified

But it is now possible to have what amounts to a team of incredibly fast, although to be honest, somewhat peculiar software engineers at your beck and call at all times. voice-verified

Jack Clark is a co-founder and head of policy at Anthropic, the company behind Claude and Claude Code. voice-verified

And for years now, Clark has been tracking the capabilities of different models in the weekly newsletter Import AI, which has been one of my key reads for following developments in AI. voice-verified

So I want to see how he is reading this moment, both how the technology is changing in his view and how policy needs to or can change in response. voice-verified

As always, my email is reclineshow at NYTimes.com. voice-verified

So I think a lot of people are familiar with AI chatbots. voice-verified

But what is an AI agent? voice-verified

But what does that... voice-verified

Like what is a multi-agent setup look like? voice-verified

So one thing I've been hearing and somewhat experiencing is two very different categories of experience people have with cloud code. voice-verified

Which is, I cannot believe how easy this is. voice-verified

And everything just works. voice-verified

And oh, this is a lot harder than I thought it would be. voice-verified

And things keep breaking. voice-verified

And I don't really understand how to fix them. voice-verified

What accounts for being able to get cloud code to produce working software versus... voice-verified

it creates buggy, often messy things, and you don't even know how to talk it out of that. voice-verified

What were the breakthroughs over the past couple of years that made that possible? voice-verified

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