Ezra Klein

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1,272 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 2d ago

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

And policy and government institutions move a lot more slowly than individual human beings. voice-verified

And so typically the intervention is that time favors the worker, as you're saying. voice-verified

And here it will help the worker. voice-verified

But I think the scary question is whether time just actually creates time for the disruption to get worse. voice-verified

Maybe you wanted to move over to data center construction, but actually now we don't need as much data center construction. voice-verified

You can think of it like that. voice-verified

So now I want to flip it, the question I'm asking. voice-verified

You brought up abundance. voice-verified

One of the things I have learned doing that work is that it is certainly not my view that what is scarce in society is ideas for better ways of doing things. voice-verified

that our policy isn't better than it is because our policy cupboard is dry. voice-verified

That's not true. voice-verified

We have lots of good policies. voice-verified

I could name a bunch of them. voice-verified

They're very hard to get through our political systems as they're currently constituted. voice-verified

The least inspiring version of the AI future voice-verified

Is the world where what you have done is create a way to throw young white-collar workers out of work and replace them with average-level AI intelligence? voice-verified

The more exciting version, to use Dario's metaphor, is geniuses in a data center. voice-verified

And I do think that's exciting. voice-verified

And I wonder when I hear him or you talk about, well, what if we had 10 percentage point GDP growth year on year, 20 percentage point GDP growth year on year? voice-verified

I wonder how many of our problems are really bounded at the ideas level, right? voice-verified

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