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Ezra Klein

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The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And that dictates everything about them.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And it's the reason why the language in which they work is biochemical, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

They produce chemicals to protect themselves, to intoxicate, to attract, all different kinds of things.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

So he says they're aware that they're being eaten.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

They often don't mind.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

The grasses actually benefit from being eaten.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And then, of course, there are all the fruits and nuts that, you know, they're happy to give away to mammals.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

So I don't know where I come out on that.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

I don't think my plants, when I prune them, I mean, they like being pruned.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

You know, they respond with more growth and new leaves.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And so I'm not too worried about that.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

There are a lot of things I go through that make me grow that I don't like.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

It's been a consistent experience of my life.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Well, it's a short-term, long-term thing, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Perhaps when you cut them with the secateurs, that bothers them, but they respond in a really constructive way.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Right, which are not exactly plants, but okay.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Fine.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

You'll get letters.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

I'm just saving you the trouble.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Yeah, that's a very common experience on psychedelics.