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Ezra Klein

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The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

He did cherry pick some things that are down because there were supply chain disruptions during the pandemic on particular goods.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

But inflation, it's not crazy.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

But it's around what it was in the final year of Joe Biden's presidency.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

And prices for Americans have not come down.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

He's not done a lot to bring them down either.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

But it's a hard thing for any president to bring the price level down.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

But he has neither significantly tried nor has he –

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

And just telling people that you have when you haven't is a dumb move.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

You know, Yuval Levin, the conservative policy scholar, I had him on the show a month or two back.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

And a point he makes that I think is very sharp about Trump is that Trump governs retail, not wholesale.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

That he governs through these individual deals with countries, with companies, not by doing things that change policy for the most part all across the country.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

Now, immigration is a counterexample to this, and to some degree, the tariffs are a counterexample to this.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

But something you really saw last night was,

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

was Trump bragging about a series of very individual, usually modest policies, some of which are not even really policies.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

So Trump Rx are individual negotiations the Trump administration has been doing with drug manufacturers through tariff.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

debates and negotiations.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

So you can get cheaper Wegovy through TrumpRx because as part of the tariff negotiations, Trump was able to extract that.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

It's not a crazy move, but it's not going to allow you to bring down prescription drug prices across the economy.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

You'd actually need to pass legislation and have Medicare do across the board bargaining for that.

The Ezra Klein Show
Trump’s Fantasy State of the Union

And the thing that's happening around the TrumpRx move is that he's extracting cheaper prices on individual drugs, and then those manufacturers are raising prices on the other drugs.