Ezra Klein
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The economy has been even worse for him.
It's gone down even further.
But the thing that I think he doesn't quite understand about immigration is weirdly the same thing Democrats didn't understand about crime.
So late in Biden's presidency, crime has fallen quite a bit, violent crime in particular.
And when people talk about the anger Americans feel about the crime issue, there's a lot of pointing out.
That, well, if you're following the actual crime data, we're sort of at a violent crime low.
And it was true-ish.
And one thing that I said and that others said at that time was that the crime polling is picking up something very real that is not getting measured in the murder rate, which is a dislike of disorder.
There was practically in the post-pandemic period— It's bigger than dislike, right?
A recoil of disorder.
But it was picking up a reaction to disorder.
There were tense cities in, you know, major American cities.
There was fair jumping out, right?
There was a lot happening, particularly post-pandemic, that had a feeling of no one is in control.
And there was very good research on this coming out at the end of Biden.
And immigration was part of this.
There had been a flooding.
Partially, this was Abbott busing people around.
But there had been a flood of people coming into the country.
And those people went all around the country.