Ezra Klein

Because I'm Jewish, but when I read the New Testament, I always come away a little bit amazed that politicized Christianity is so worried about

gender, sexuality, and so unconcerned with greed?

For those unfamiliar with the term, what is Christian nationalism?

One thing I appreciate about Donald Trump, about President Trump, is he doesn't pretend that his politics are built on piety.

That's not his style.

But the vice president, J.D.

Vance, does suggest that his politics are built around a Christian ethic.

And I want to play a clip of him for you.

I think as somebody who is outside Christianity,

And as such is always a little bit astonished by the radicalism of the text.

And the strangeness of it.

God incarnates in a human being that human being is tortured and murdered.

and rises again as a lesson in mercy and forgiveness and transcendence.

And there's all manner of violence I'm doing to the story there, but the incarnation in the least among us, the structure of, to me, the New Testament as Jesus goes to one outcast member of society after another.

And then I look up into particularly this administration and

And I see people who are incredibly loud in their Christianity and also incredibly cruel in their politics.

Put aside the question of what borders you think a nation must have.

You can enforce that border in all manner of ways without treating people who are coming here to escape violence or to better their family's life cruelly.

You can do it without the memes we see them make on social media of a cartoon immigrant weeping as she's being deported, of the ASMR video of migrants shackled to one another, dragging their chains, with the implication being that the sound of that

should soothe you.