Ezra Klein

For kids whose parents work multiple jobs, neurodivergent kids. And a lot of it will be good. It will be good for some kids. But the more adoption there is, and the more these companies... are already in the door and competing with each other then for your kid's attention, the more the sort of darker side of it will begin to flower. That's right. And that's what worries me here.

For kids whose parents work multiple jobs, neurodivergent kids. And a lot of it will be good. It will be good for some kids. But the more adoption there is, and the more these companies... are already in the door and competing with each other then for your kid's attention, the more the sort of darker side of it will begin to flower. That's right. And that's what worries me here.

It's all so new, but it's all so adaptable. I was talking with somebody who works at one of the big AI companies about this, and he was saying to me, oh, but the good thing about AI is that it's really flexible. You can tell it, you can give it whatever value prompt you want to give it, right? If you want to tell it to not just do whatever your kid want, right? You could do that.

It's all so new, but it's all so adaptable. I was talking with somebody who works at one of the big AI companies about this, and he was saying to me, oh, but the good thing about AI is that it's really flexible. You can tell it, you can give it whatever value prompt you want to give it, right? If you want to tell it to not just do whatever your kid want, right? You could do that.

And yeah, it's sort of always true that you could. But when I look at the way the markets actually work here, that eventually what's going to happen is we're going to give people what they want, not what we think they should want. And that's the part. I can imagine negotiating structures on this over a long period of time as we have with social media maybe. Yeah.

And yeah, it's sort of always true that you could. But when I look at the way the markets actually work here, that eventually what's going to happen is we're going to give people what they want, not what we think they should want. And that's the part. I can imagine negotiating structures on this over a long period of time as we have with social media maybe. Yeah.

But we're not going to understand it for a long period of time. That's right. We'll never catch up with it. And it's going to be evolving very rapidly during this period of time.

But we're not going to understand it for a long period of time. That's right. We'll never catch up with it. And it's going to be evolving very rapidly during this period of time.

Yeah, that's right. It's like hard not to have a phone. It's by app. It's not even by the computer.

Yeah, that's right. It's like hard not to have a phone. It's by app. It's not even by the computer.

The one thing I worry about with using the AI to draw everything my kid wants to draw is that does it reduce the interest in actually drawing?

The one thing I worry about with using the AI to draw everything my kid wants to draw is that does it reduce the interest in actually drawing?

Let me ask you about another dimension of this, which I've found myself obsessing over recently. So you're a professor at a business school, and you're a professor at an elite school. And we were talking about instrumental education earlier, right? I think that it was a pretty reasonable expectation.

Let me ask you about another dimension of this, which I've found myself obsessing over recently. So you're a professor at a business school, and you're a professor at an elite school. And we were talking about instrumental education earlier, right? I think that it was a pretty reasonable expectation.

I think parents would raise their kids and push them to study with the sort of expectation that, you know what, if they could get to the NYU Stern School of Business, they're probably going to be okay out there in the economy. And then you mentioned how good AI is getting at being an adjunct to your research. Yeah. And I already see that.

I think parents would raise their kids and push them to study with the sort of expectation that, you know what, if they could get to the NYU Stern School of Business, they're probably going to be okay out there in the economy. And then you mentioned how good AI is getting at being an adjunct to your research. Yeah. And I already see that.

You know, I've been playing around with deep research and I can already see how good that is getting at research and how quick it is. And it would change what I needed in terms of research. It feels like an event horizon to me. Yes, it does. Of what should my children be educated towards? Mm-hmm.

You know, I've been playing around with deep research and I can already see how good that is getting at research and how quick it is. And it would change what I needed in terms of research. It feels like an event horizon to me. Yes, it does. Of what should my children be educated towards? Mm-hmm.

In many ways, I would say it'll be much safer to be educated towards being an electrician than to be educated towards being, you know, a contract lawyer. And I doubt there has been a moment as a parent when what society, the economy will want or value or reward is. in people in 15 or 20 years has been as liquid. Yeah, that's right. How would you think about this?

In many ways, I would say it'll be much safer to be educated towards being an electrician than to be educated towards being, you know, a contract lawyer. And I doubt there has been a moment as a parent when what society, the economy will want or value or reward is. in people in 15 or 20 years has been as liquid. Yeah, that's right. How would you think about this?