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Ezra Klein

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This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

And it's not inevitable. Europe builds trains better than we do. They just do. And they have governments, I checked, and they have unions more than we do. So it's not just that- They have less lawyers than you point that out in the book. Well, that's an issue. I'd be very curious to hear. So this is a thing I think people don't know that I would love to hear your thoughts on that.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

We do government different in this country than they do in Europe. There's a qualitative difference between it, which is they run government through bureaucracies and we restrain government through courts. Yeah. which at the moment with Trump seems good in a bunch of ways. And there are ways in which it's good. And there are also ways in which it makes it hellacious.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

We do government different in this country than they do in Europe. There's a qualitative difference between it, which is they run government through bureaucracies and we restrain government through courts. Yeah. which at the moment with Trump seems good in a bunch of ways. And there are ways in which it's good. And there are also ways in which it makes it hellacious.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

We do government different in this country than they do in Europe. There's a qualitative difference between it, which is they run government through bureaucracies and we restrain government through courts. Yeah. which at the moment with Trump seems good in a bunch of ways. And there are ways in which it's good. And there are also ways in which it makes it hellacious.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

There are two major liberal movements that happened in the 20th century. The one we think about a lot is New Deal liberalism. That's the one where we build aggressively. It's a growth-oriented liberalism. It's a liberalism of material goods. And it's the liberalism that defines the left-right divide in our national narrative, right? Liberals believe in big, strong government.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

There are two major liberal movements that happened in the 20th century. The one we think about a lot is New Deal liberalism. That's the one where we build aggressively. It's a growth-oriented liberalism. It's a liberalism of material goods. And it's the liberalism that defines the left-right divide in our national narrative, right? Liberals believe in big, strong government.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

There are two major liberal movements that happened in the 20th century. The one we think about a lot is New Deal liberalism. That's the one where we build aggressively. It's a growth-oriented liberalism. It's a liberalism of material goods. And it's the liberalism that defines the left-right divide in our national narrative, right? Liberals believe in big, strong government.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Conservatives believe in small, limited government.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Conservatives believe in small, limited government.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Conservatives believe in small, limited government.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

in the 60s 70s 80s you have real problems that have emerged from this new deal order we have built heedlessly recklessly intensely we are cutting highways all across the country many of them they're not all of them through marginalized communities but man the rich communities don't like it when a highway goes through either right and and they have a lot of the power that leads to this there is a a genuine

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

in the 60s 70s 80s you have real problems that have emerged from this new deal order we have built heedlessly recklessly intensely we are cutting highways all across the country many of them they're not all of them through marginalized communities but man the rich communities don't like it when a highway goes through either right and and they have a lot of the power that leads to this there is a a genuine

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

in the 60s 70s 80s you have real problems that have emerged from this new deal order we have built heedlessly recklessly intensely we are cutting highways all across the country many of them they're not all of them through marginalized communities but man the rich communities don't like it when a highway goes through either right and and they have a lot of the power that leads to this there is a a genuine

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

the spoiling of the environment. My colleague Derek likes to talk about the moment in Los Angeles, I think it's in the 40s or 50s, where people wake up and think there's been a chemical attack from Japanese, but it turned out that the city had launched its own chemical attack on itself.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

the spoiling of the environment. My colleague Derek likes to talk about the moment in Los Angeles, I think it's in the 40s or 50s, where people wake up and think there's been a chemical attack from Japanese, but it turned out that the city had launched its own chemical attack on itself.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

the spoiling of the environment. My colleague Derek likes to talk about the moment in Los Angeles, I think it's in the 40s or 50s, where people wake up and think there's been a chemical attack from Japanese, but it turned out that the city had launched its own chemical attack on itself.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

who signs the California Environmental Quality Act into law. Yeah, this CEQA issue that you and others and myself love to hate at times. It's worth taking, I think, a minute on CEQA. So Reagan signs a bill into law from Jake Ambinder's research. It doesn't even merit a full article in the LA Times.