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Ezra Klein

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The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

I'm sorry, I can't pay this off.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

But one of the theories called global neuronal workspace theory, which is that there are thoughts competing with one another for access to our conscious awareness.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And they're kind of, you know, this Darwinian process.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And only the most salient ever gets into the workspace and then broadcast to the whole brain.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

The problem with this theory is there's a lot of trivial stuff that somehow gets through, at least in my case.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

I think there's a lot of traffic going back and forth.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And that's something also that you happen, not just during meditation, but during psychedelic experiences.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

There's lots of unconscious material that comes up.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Yeah.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Yeah.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

So there's a meditation teacher I really like whose meditations are on YouTube named Michael Taft.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And his attitude is like, look, the machinery of the mind is gonna go on, but just put it down the way you'd put down your phone.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And just...

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

You know, let it do its thing.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

You can just ignore it.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And I find that very helpful.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And I have this sense of a little buzzing going on in this corner, you know, of like thoughts that I'm not paying attention to.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

But, you know, as Kalina shows, it's very hard to control this material and things are going to bubble up and they're interesting.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Productivity ideas.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

You're thinking about it in terms of an algorithm and a massive data and different things could get pulled into it.