Ezra Klein

And in the way that when Democrats had dominance over Twitter, when liberals and progressives and leftists had dominance over Twitter- And we're talking to each other in this increasing-

But they didn't understand that because where they were, it's like to have normie opinions was politically lethal.

That's how it is for the right now on Twitter.

And J.D.

Vance is there and all of their staffers are there.

Whereas like the liberals and Democrats and leftists are split and broken across different platforms.

And that is genuinely an advantage.

I have come to this exact same conclusion.

Yeah.

Like Twitter, it's like it's a kind of a curse, right?

It makes you feel very powerful and you pay for it.

Let's end there.

Always our final question.

What are three books you recommend to the audience?

So I'm going to spare you all my reading on Italian history, which I think is probably not particularly relevant.

I read and loved Ben Lerner's newest transcription.

I will say as someone who went to Brown and he was in my class there and I just went to my 23rd reunion with Kate, who I met there, it had a particular potency for me that it may not have to the general audience.

I recently read...

And I can't believe I had never read this book, but I read The Godfather, the original novel by Mario Puzo.

It's a combination of some really weird and truly awfully misogynistic stuff.