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Ezra Klein

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The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Now the companies are now going for our attachments with chatbots.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

It's going to be easier to manipulate.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Definitely.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

It's going to be angrier.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

It's going to be angrier.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

I mean, it's a space of freedom and you give up the space of freedom and you're thinking other people's thoughts and you're much more vulnerable to manipulation.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And if you really nurture your own mind and your own sense of consciousness, you're much less likely to fall for lies.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

You're much more likely to think independently.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

How do you think independently when you're scrolling?

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

You don't.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

You react, but you're not setting the agenda.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

You're letting an algorithm set the agenda.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

But it is the nature of capitalism to intrude on more and more of our lives, more and more of our time.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

There was an interview with the president of Netflix who was explaining in regard to competition over an acquisition or something like, we're not competing with other streaming services.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

We're competing with your dream time.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

It was one of the more dystopic things I've heard a CEO say.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

I know, it really is.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

And you know, they are competing with our...

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

the part of our consciousness that wants to think its own thoughts, because there's more money to be made if we think their thoughts.

The Ezra Klein Show
Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

Yeah.