Ezra Klein

But there's a split.

And I think Louise Perry was the first one.

I heard her talk about this, and it's actually helped me think about this.

Between the pagan side of the New Right and the Christian side of the New Right.

And Bronze Age pervert is on the pagan side.

And I want to go back to what you're saying about hierarchy and the uber mansion and Nietzsche.

This is a quote from his book.

He writes...

Nietzsche never forgot that the fundamental fact of nature is inequality.

And this is something these people, the followers of Heidegger and Heidegger himself, to a great degree, all forget.

It is madness to ask the common prefab run of man to fashion his own way, his own religion.

The many find solace in meaning, only in submission.

It is good that this is so, and they shouldn't be made to feel shamed for it.

So much of the modern idiocy is based on shaming those who would find true pleasure in submission.

The long chain of being is held together by command and obedience.

And this is really the core politics of this book and a lot of these, which is that we have ended up in this Christianized, you know, liberal democracy that believes in equality and in doing our subverting and denying politics.

the hierarchical dominance and obedience structures of nature.

And this will start getting into this real discussion of masculinity.

I guess the argument they would make, let me try to steel man this, is of course they don't like John Rawls because we don't live behind the veil of ignorance.

and acting as if we do, and ordering society as if we do, turns out to have this fundamental problem, which is that it subverts the natural way men are supposed to be, which is it is the expression of these competitive, aggressive, ambitious, even violent instincts, which, maybe we didn't realize it at the time, but we now know, are a