Ezra Levant

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549 appearances 4 recordings 3 series first heard Jan 2025 last heard 13 Apr

Ezra Levant’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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I said, you have the biggest win you can, 55 million views. He said, no. Now it has over 150 million views, and the world is talking about it, including Elon Musk himself, who retweeted it. And see, the law isn't used to dealing with people who are not rationalizing, sort of maximizing the optimal outcome for reducing pain.
You're right. So they thought I was going to take the deal back in 2008 to let the Z-Mum have a page in the magazine rather than to fight a six-figure fight for three years. And with Tommy, they thought he would bend the knee and take that thing down. Instead, he said, no, I'll hold fast. And so he's still in the clink. By the way, they have him in solitary confinement.
They cleared out the whole segregation block. He's the only prisoner in there. He's in his cell 21 hours a day. He's allowed out to have a shower. He's allowed out to ride a stationary bike and to sort of a homemade gym. The rest of the time, he is in isolation.
A thousand people? Everyone has a social media following.
And by the way— So it means whatever the hell they want. A lot of his friends happen to be in him. Of course. I was scheduled to go and visit him on February 16th. Yeah. And I just got a letter from the prison governor saying, we understand you have a social media presence and we're not going to let you in. The trouble with that is these visitors, I mean, I'm interested to hear how he's doing.
Do you know how he's doing? No. Well, I hear from his family, and there are some—and he's deteriorating. Well, yeah, no doubt. You cannot spend—it is a form of mental torture. It is—solitary confinement is how you punish a prisoner who's already in prison.
Now, they have him in a maximum security prison, too. There are murderers in that prison. I visited him once before they brought in this no visitors rule, and it was quite something to get through this labyrinth of doors. I met with him early, and he was in high enough spirits in the first month. Now he's in his fourth month there. He's got five more? That's right. And he's falling apart.
Here's the problem with banning visitors.
Not just that. The visitors want to visit for their own sake. I want to talk to him about certain things. I want to report back certain things on his health. But from his point of view, he needs the visitors to stay sane.
And he has certain visiting slots. His family cannot fill them all. His family is living a life. His kids are in school. He's like... And so there, I was in court when the judge meted out the sentence. The judge gave him the maximum sentence allowed by law to be served in solitary, no such thing.
In fact, he always says, put me in the ward, put me in the wing, and I'll fend for myself, and it's on you, prison. The prison are putting—the prison don't know what to do with him. Because you're correct to say in the UK— Yeah, because it's a civil offense, right? In the United States, you have different kinds of gangs in prison. There's the white gangs, the black gangs, the Latino gangs.
You go to a gang for protection. In the UK, by far the dominant gangs are the Muslim gangs. In fact, you convert to join. And the thing is, Tommy Robinson is a skeptic and a critic of Islam. And anyone who would put a knife into him would be a hero in the community forever. Yeah, right. And so there are some ways to imprison such a man, especially if he's a civil prisoner.
It's not a crime that he's in jail for. He put a video up. And let's get back to fact checkers for one second. Let me say this. The judge said, what you're going to put online is not admissible in court. I reject it as the truth because it was not admissible in court under these rules of civil procedure. Okay, fair enough, judge.
But that doesn't mean it's not true, and that doesn't mean it's not useful. And we don't all have to seek truth through a particular legal system where lawyers and judges determine what you're allowed to see and what you're not allowed to see. So what's happening is there's a battle between Tommy Robinson and the government of the United Kingdom over what is true.
And a judge says, in my courtroom, where Tommy did not have a lawyer, where he was sort of doing homemade law, you were not allowed to bring certain evidence into the trial, and so you're not allowed to put them in a different forum where you're more adept. A social media video. How is that anything other than a brutal fact check?
And when Tommy Robinson didn't accept it, solitary confinement, he'll serve nine months in solitary. I don't know anyone other than Julian Assange who's done that. And... There really is a two-tier. Where's the prison? It's called Woodhill. It's in a town called Milton Keynes. It's about a 90-minute drive from Heathrow Airport. And I'm still hoping to go in.
I wrote back to the prison governor just yesterday saying, look, I'll sign an NDA, which is obscene. Right, right. And this prison governor, who is she to say I can't say what Tommy said and I can't say what I see? But I want to actually put eyes on him. Especially outside the U.K., It's just unheard of. But I want to put eyes on him. I want to see what he's doing. Absolutely.
And they are delaying and delaying. You know what? They would like him to die in prison. That would be a mistake. I think so. And what I've learned, my advice to him three months ago was, take the video down and don't go to jail for so long. Declare victory. But his victory is magnified much more by it. So they don't know how to deal with him.
I want to tell you one more Tommy story, and I know I talk about him a lot. No, no, I want you to. I go to the UK, and I know you do too. And I think we love it for similar reasons. It's the source of our language and our culture and our history, the source of our freedom. English common law. You know, I'm in love with the place. Yep, me too, absolutely. I can't get enough.
But it's also, my trips there, I call them a dystopian time machine. When I go to the UK, I see what our future will be five years down the road if we don't change course on matters like mass immigration that is not culturally. Net zero. What they call ULEZ, ultra low emission zones.
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