Fan 12

Yes, I will. I don't think LeBron's the GOAT. I don't think Michael Jordan's the GOAT either though.

I think we're gonna go in the direction of Stephen Curry. And I'm gonna point out your simple statement in one word. Steph Curry? You said laughably. Okay. And to me, that's bigger than Michael Jordan versus LeBron James. You are simply hitting and taking a hit, a personal shot at the entire game of basketball that we are watching today. And to me, you bring up competition.

I think seeing Steph Curry and LeBron James go head to head in their rivalry, LeBron always posts on Instagram, he says, iron sharpens iron. Where was the iron sharpening iron with Michael Jordan when he was winning all of his championships? I understand that 6-0 is something that is perfect. You really can't debate it. But what you can do is say, all right, it was a beautiful thing.

We're going to leave it in the past because there is greatness in front of our eyes and it's LeBron James and it's Stephen Curry. And then we get into LeBron versus Steph And I'm going to sit here and say, Steph Curry, if he wins a fifth championship, which he will, which is why I'm saying Steph's the GOAT, if he wins that fifth title, he is the greatest of all time.

LeBron James, everyone here is talking about LeBron as the GOAT, and he did a very similar thing. When you look at Steph Curry and his greatness, I get that he choked in that moment. The 3-1 lead, you're never going to be able to beat that. But what he did in 22 against the Celtics and what he's doing now, you love Tom Brady. His best years are ahead of him, and I'm predicting that right now.

I think the next five years of Stephen Curry are going to be his best five years. Okay.

Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, sir.

Yeah, so I think I bring some credibility here. Your guy, my guy, our guy, Tom Brady.

I think Tom is a really good frame for evaluating Mahomes and being overrated. Yes, Brady has seven Super Bowls. Mahomes can't be penalized for not living that long yet. So in seven years as a starter, three Super Bowl wins, two MVPs, he has 7,000 more passing yards than Tom Brady, more interceptions, more touchdowns, fewer interceptions.

And I think what you always come back to is that Brady always came through in the big moments and Mahomes shrinks. And I can tell you Mahomes has risen in big moments and Brady has shrunk. Mahomes and Brady are the only two people on the history of planet Earth to lead a game-winning touchdown drive in overtime in the Super Bowl.

Mahomes led game winning drives in the other two Super Bowls to win the game. Brady did not do that against the Eagles in 2017. He did not do that in 2012 versus the Giants. That all pains me. So I think they're very close. In fact, I would even say they're in lockstep through their first seven years of starting.

I don't think it's fair to say Mahomes hasn't yet won six Super Bowls.

Yep.

The key thing you're saying there, 14 points in the Super Bowl.

But when the Bucs defense is hellacious good and the Eagles defense is hellacious good, Mahomes is a bum.

It is tough when the refs don't call the five holding penalties on the helmet catch. When Asante Samuel, your shutdown corner, drops the easy interception. All right.

We're relying on a Hail Mary here. What about the Brandon Graham drive that won before where he did not deliver? He did not come through.

But what about Mahomes? Again, three Super Bowl wins, three game-winning drives.

This pains me. This is our guy. I'm saying first seven years as a starter, they are step for step. In fact, Mahomes is superior statistically. Okay, quick stat. Tied on Super Bowls.

Hello again. So focusing on the who gets credit for the dynasty. And again, I never thought I'd be in this chair twice arguing against our hero, Tom Brady. But my kind of thesis is that the partnership between Brady and Belichick is the most successful partnership in NFL history, and it's almost impossible to determine credit. It was kind of a one plus one equals three situation.

And where I'm coming from there is Brady, famously not a remarkable prep prospect, had a good, not great college career, actually very similar to like Chad Henney, who came right after him.

Famously 199th pick overall. So there was no indication that he was going to be the savior all-time great quarterback.

Yeah. Okay, go ahead. Yep. There was no indication that he was going to be that great quarterback until he came with Bill Belichick. And he sat for a year, learned of Bill Belichick. Belichick saw the potential, promoted him to backup.

And then week three, or week two, he comes in for Bledsoe. Week three, he is good in 2001. He has big moments. But on the whole, he's not great. And even his first six years, his closest statistical comps are Matt Ryan and Russell Wilson. Good quarterbacks, not great. Patriots defense for those first three Super Bowls, world class. I think one year was first overall. It was always top five.

Brady continued to ascend throughout his career. And it became more Brady dominant in the second half. Once you had Gronk and Edelman and Moss and all that, it became more of a Brady dominant offense. So that's why it's kind of impossible to say it's this, it's that. It's more just this marriage that worked out wonderful for everybody, including me.

So one thing I will concede to you is that Belichick lost his fastball the last, starting in the Eagles, second Eagles Super Bowl. He kind of lost it. But they bailed each other out time to time. The Malcolm Butler interception, you could say that bailed out Tom Brady. And that was a coaching, design, preparation, execution.

And I believe, I'm not sure, but I believe the Seahawks were shut out in the fourth quarter.

And that play was a result of two weeks of preparation game time studying that specific three wide.

And then let's go to that second Rams Super Bowl. Patriots put up 13 points, three points for three and a half quarters. I think you even said that was a Belichick masterpiece of a game plan. So it's like, like I said, it's taking turns.

And let's look at the Falcons Super Bowl, too. Brady is awful that first half.

The pick six.

And he's phenomenal in the second half. Belichick and his defense does their part by shutting the Falcons out, or definitely after the fourth quarter they were shut out. So, again, it's this symbiotic relationship.

All right. This was fun. Thank you. Good job. Yeah. I had to come back.