Fan 8
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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So, Kobe Bryant, 20 years with the same team, 18 All-Stars, 15 All-NBA, 12 All-Defense, MVP, two finals MVPs, five championships. And even though he's done all of that, I think what makes him the greatest Laker of all time, it's different than what makes a player the greatest player of all time. Because like LeBron's not the greatest Heat player of all time, that's Dwyane Wade.
So it's not just, are you better? Like, are you greater? It's what you've done for that city and that franchise. And I would argue, I love magic. I grew up on magic.
I'm older than I look, honestly. But Magic, when you saw him on the court, he was like the greatest showman, right? He's a performer, charisma, a smile, the flashiness, Showtime, right? Kobe, when you saw him on the court, it was like watching your brother, you know, your sibling or your uncle or your son, because he had this fully realized character arc. He was a rookie. He failed.
You know, I mean, not drafted by the Lakers, but we got him, you know, early and the air balls, you know, and then the rising to prominence. He was just 18 years old. Yeah, yeah. The 2000, taking over in the finals after Shaq got hurt, after Jalen Rose shadily sprained his ankle and then he came back and then, you know, he got him back with the 81 later.
But, and then the championships, and then there was another, he went through kind of a villain arc. He did. You know, there was like Colorado.
All the down years. Good, like it. If you're a fan, you're with, Kobe's with you that whole time. And I actually didn't like Kobe early on. I wanted, I was mad when they started playing him over Eddie Jones, like early days. And you went through all of that and Kobe just won you over. That's why there are more than 350 murals
Sure, well... Let me address that real quick. Because you're going to the finals and you're talking about Shaq, but that's always with the team from the East, and the East had notoriously bad big men. Everyone knows in those years, the finals was the Western Conference Finals. Yeah. Yeah, and in those series, Kobe was instrumental.
You know, in 2002, Kobe and Shaq basically throughout the whole playoffs had equivalent points. Yeah, the same amount of points. And Shaq himself has admitted on, you know, various podcasts and different things. He was never the guy to take the last shot. I know you value that, right? Jordan's your guy. Kobe is the closest thing that we've ever seen to Jordan.
And he was a guy who never shied away from the moment. He was a guy who always made the most of his opportunity when it was there.
And I don't think he gets enough credit for the second.
run that he made with pow that team wasn't i mean that's not an all-time team no you know his all-time his breakthrough was not against an all-time team because remember the magic upset lebron's cavaliers to get to the finals right i mean i i give you that but you can only play the team that you know i think lebron maybe he's the one who did they had the mackey commercials you know but lebron did it supposed to be he didn't hope hold up his end in the bargain i mean because
I'm not okay with it, but I mean, are you okay with 84, Tragic Johnson, where, you know, runs out the clock, throws the turnover?
You mean after the pout? Yeah, after the pout. To me, those failures you're pointing at, every player has failures, except for maybe who's your GOAT. But every player has that. Magic has that. Kobe has that. I think...
I'm about to get voted out, real quick. Real quick, real quick. Were any of those finals really competitive? Pacers, Sixers, and Nets. No, they weren't competitive.
I think Kobe could easily have had better numbers. He didn't have to. You know, Shaq... Those teams were not equipped to play against the Lakers. Credit Allen Iverson for getting the one game in 2001.
Sit down! How are you? I'm doing well, Skip. So I really have to fight you here. First off, you're going to say he's way overrated, and you're comparing him about maybe arguably the best quarterback to ever play the game. Well, not arguably. Well, hold on.
I mean, we could talk about that, too, but that's not the argument we're going to talk about here because there's a guy named Joe Montana that played this game, too. But ultimately, you're comparing him against the second, like I said, second best quarterback to ever possibly play the game. This guy's been to eight AFC championships in a row. The guy has done... I watched both those Super Bowls.
I watched him lose the last one. I was real happy about that. I also watched him come back out in the second half and tear the Eagles' defense apart. Now, you could argue that our defensive coordinator was ready to stay in Arizona and not finish out the game. Could be. He still, I don't care how many drugs you had to put in him, what he had to do to repair that ankle.
He was the one single-handedly that kind of won that game. I could say that he was the one that called the defensive holding because he was the one that was crying about the, and he got the call. But really the play before that was when he ran for 35 yards to be able to get down the field. That play was really what cemented that game.
And I knew at that point that we weren't going to be able to win because he was going to be able to actually just finish out the clock.
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