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Fareed Zakaria

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The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

China has one, North Korea.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

If you want to add Russia and Iran, find three, you know.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

So the truth is, a world without American power will be a worse world for the rest of the world as well.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And I think many of them

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

feel a certain nostalgia for the old American power that they used to denounce.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

I have somewhat rose-colored glasses about these things, but I think America was very special in its world role, and I don't think China will be able to do that.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

I noticed the was in that.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It certainly was.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

Right now, we are definitely speaking in the past tense.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

The United States is currently not exercising its world role with the same level of strategic thought, with the same moral vision, and with the same humanitarian impulse that it has done, albeit imperfectly.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

I hope that that can come back.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

But my great worry, as I said, is some of these things

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

are very hard to reconstitute.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

The world moves on, the world changes.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

People, your reputations take a lifetime to build and it's very easy to destroy.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It's true for human beings and it's true for nations, maybe.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

What are three books you'd recommend to the audience?

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

So one book I thought, since we do often talk about the rules-based international order, and it does sound so wonky, that I would suggest a wonky book that explains it.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

The best scholar who's written on this is a guy named John Eikenberry at Princeton, and I think the book is called A World Safe for Democracy, and encapsulates what is this thing, the rules-based international order, the liberal international order that the U.S.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

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