Fareed Zakaria

As you well know, Obama has probably still deported more people than Trump.

In other words, if you look at it month to month.

But they did that.

It was a different, they did do it at the border.

Exactly.

And they did it in a very different way.

But that's my point, which is-

In one case, they were almost trying to minimize the theater and maximize the effectiveness.

In this case, they're actually trying to maximize the effectiveness, even if the numbers aren't what they want to show that this is what we are doing.

Right.

Right.

I also think, back to your Greenland point, it's a very important thing to understand that their view of wealth and economic growth is weirdly old-fashioned.

So they think, you know, like, Greenland has minerals in the ground.

It has all this stuff.

You can always buy them.

You can always lease them.

The idea that the country that has minerals underneath its soil is going to be rich as pieces.

If that were true, all of Africa would be rich.

Think about Israel, South Korea.

Yeah, these countries have nothing.