Father Stephen De Young
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first heard May 2026
last heard 29 May
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Right.
Um, that's, that's not only kind of a, a gross inversion of Christianity, but it's essentially the way ancient magic and sorcery worked.
really right that's what separates sort of your when you're talking about ancient religion right in the in the pagan world we're talking about the greco-roman world or the ancient near east the the division between magic and just sort of pagan religion right is that in pagan religion they thought that the the gods the spirits they were worshiping sort of remained free
So you could make a sacrifice, you make an offering to them, you try to cajole them into doing what you want.
But they could say no.
They could decide they don't favor you.
You read the Iliad, the gods could just decide to switch sides in the middle of the war.
They sort of remain free.
With magic, the idea of ritual magic is that you get...
By doing the ritual in the correct way, saying the correct things, doing the correct things, you get the spiritual entity to do, you kind of compel it or command it to do what you want it to do.
That makes you God, God of those demons.
Right.
And so...
even when someone identifies as a Christian, if they're out there trying to say, well, if you do X, Y, Z, right?
If we get X number of people praying, if we do it, then God will, that's essentially magic, right?
The whole idea of Christian prayer and worship and the Christian life is that God is transforming me, right?
Yeah.
Not that I'm changing God.
If God did change, it'd be different.
Right.
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