Fernando De Leon

And that was just a philosophical view of it.

So Chick-fil-A,

And many of those companies early days, it was a small deal.

Giant real estate companies didn't want to go mess with it.

They're like, oh, that's beneath me.

But I was like, I'll do it.

And I'll do whatever it takes.

So we did a lot of it.

And they were fantastic partners.

And many of those businesses like Raising Cane, 7-Eleven, Chase Bank, CVS, all of these businesses, I built buildings for them.

And we had great partnership with them.

On things that I see kind of that others aren't particularly paying attention to,

So out of the real estate business about nine years ago, I co-founded a business called Crexie, which today is based here in Los Angeles.

And today is the second largest purveyor of commercial real estate data in the country.

And so early days, nine years ago, somebody said, hey, do you want to own this office building?

And they offered it to me to buy it.

And I got to thinking like what is the opposite of an office building?

And I didn't like the office building business.

I never did any deals in it because I thought the capex was too high.

I thought tenants would roll over too much.