Fernando De Leon

And he, you know, he agreed.

We signed it.

And we did that, you know, four or five more times.

And that was the first time I ever owned anything.

I was about 15 years old.

And these buildings were not, you know, they were pretty substantial facilities.

They had leverage.

They had financing and everything.

But I learned it.

And then I worked for that person for the next four or five years.

And I was a project manager.

And I was running...

real estate development deals from his office.

And so I was running them effectively myself as the coordinator and orchestra conductor of engineers and architects and construction companies.

And that's why I learned the craft as a kid.

But I was making good money and that was important.

But it was important because I could support my mom and the family.

And that was

sort of the seminal moment that, you know, that made me want to generate wealth as a protective measure, not so much for, you know, buying things or whatever.

It was really a sort of a protective, protecting the family.