Fiona Fung

So even me doing PRs, it's less about what it is I'm fixing.

It's more about me using the primary date just to keep that touch.

Cause I

as amazing as metrics and everything are, and I do look at those dashboards, if you, as a leader, if you're not, you know, like living and breathing your product every day, you sometimes kind of like lose touch of the touch and feel of the product.

But anyways, on the manager front, I think giving time for managers that join to be able to go deep and to do that before supporting people.

And then they actually like end up building really great rapport with the team.

Like, because if not, I think sometimes as managers,

You might come and join a new team and you instantly think, I have to manage.

Let me dig into my manager toolbox and do manager-y things.

But if you actually give yourself time to not have to worry about that first and actually learn what it's like to be an engineer and teammate on the team, that also goes really far to building rapport.

And in terms of using the product, I think that's important.

It's interesting.

Every team I've joined, one of the first... Actually, across all the different products.

It could be...

VR, it could be smart glasses.

It was like Instagram.

Usually when I first joined, one comment that comes back to me is, hey, you know what?

I really love how you're actually using what we build.

It's refreshing to see you giving user feedback.

And so I think as leaders too, it's also a way for us to experience the work personally that the team does.