Fiona Fung

Yeah, I think it's really, and this has worked for me, it's just been a really good way for me to keep a pulse on, you know, anytime you build product, there's a dream.

Like you're really hoping to enable an experience or make an experience better.

So I think being able, like that helps me keep really close to the pulse.

I also think, and maybe some, like for sure on Visual Studio, that was like, you know, where I got this love of it.

But it's interesting because even Marketplace, I remembered every time, once in a while I'll do like even after I left the team, actually.

One time I had like a MacBook Air I wanted to sell.

I'm like, oh, you know, I haven't sold anything on Marketplace lately.

And I could not believe it.

The minute I put it up for sale, a seller or a buyer tried to scam me.

And it was an interesting like new scan vector I didn't detect.

And so, but that goes to, again, like people will use your products in ways that you may not expect.

And so, especially as leaders or even like anyone on the team, we all have different like life.

Like, actually, it's funny when I was, you know, supporting the VR and AR teams, somehow how I used VR, the setup, I would always be able to find these really weird floor height issues.

So that ended up being a, oh, I took a, you know, like, I'm going to help us, you know, like, because somehow I got a good repro environment.

And so I think it's number one, like making, that's how you keep your pulse on the product that you're building and don't get too lost in metrics and dashboards, only your presentations.

Yeah.

And actually, sometimes it's also how I've been able to most effectively help the team.

So, for example, the last time I was on, I was leading a VR team.

And, you know, because like back then, I have not checked in any code into that code base just because I was really worried about like messing up the operating system.

But what was a gap?