Fiona Harvey

It comes from science.

It comes from the world's leading climate scientists telling us what we need to do to avoid the worst ravages of climate breakdown.

Now, if we have a breakdown in the climate, then our economy will be destroyed.

You won't be talking about GDP.

You won't be talking about inflation.

You'll be talking about rat barbecues.

And we need to avoid that.

At all costs.

And the way to avoid that, the only way to avoid that, is by cutting greenhouse gas emissions to net zero.

So suggesting that you can just kind of put that off, that's not really an urgent problem, is insane.

This is not some kind of mad, faraway future that, you know, a few scientists think might happen anytime.

We're seeing the planet change in front of our eyes.

The other thing that Tony Blair doesn't take account of is that wedding ourselves even more closely to gas in the short term doesn't make sense because we're in the midst of a global fossil fuel crisis where fossil fuel prices are going through the roof.

Now, Tony Blair, very close to many petrostates, they want us to remain hitched to oil.

other voices in Tony Blair's ears from big tech and they want big these big data centers everywhere and they're worried you know that renewable energy can't be built fast enough for them to build them so they are agitating for more gas and so on is that really where you want to put your children's future gambling on a resource that is declining and that is killing us

And that is causing massive problems that will cause our planet to become unlivable within your children's lifetimes.

Is that really where you want to be?

I think that people are seeing heat waves to such a degree that it is changing people's consciousness.

A few years ago in London, we saw temperatures go over 40 degrees for the first time.

And I think people find that quite a shock.