Frances Whiting

And that's just amazing.

You know, mum will be saying, oh, aren't you a lovely dancer?

What's that dance?

And about three weeks ago, Tallulah actually taught mum the top half of a TikTok dance.

And they were doing it together.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's incredibly special.

You know, you've got a woman that, you know, was a flapper talking to a little girl, no, a teenager who's showing her how to do a viral TikTok dance.

I mean, you know, that brings us back to humans haven't changed.

Okay.

So I should say from inception to publication of four years.

It's a long time between books for me.

A lot of authors do one a year.

I tend to do one, four is actually my quickest.

So my first one was seven years between and my next one was six.

So this one's four.

And the only time I can do it, Sarah, is 5am.

So this book, 5am to 7am before work, three, four mornings a week.

I'm really happy to say that I think I've got a way better answer to this question than I used to have, because quite often after I'm, you know, I did an event last night and in the Q&A, there'll always be a reader that will say, oh, how do I start?