Francesca van Tielen

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167 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard 21 Apr

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What conclusions can they take, knowing what happened, for example, with a huge hyperscale like Amazon Web Services?

Well, it's clear that we have become very dependent on non-European cloud providers and it is a huge risk.

So, do we have the capacity within Europe to be more independent?

And if not, what is needed to be more independent in the future?

Well, I have a very interesting figure here.

So according to the European Center for International Political Economy,

The European tech and cloud companies are 1.3 trillion, which is $1,300 billion behind the US counterparts in terms of investments.

So it is a huge gap between the investments that have been done in the US and here.

It will take years before we can just make that gap a bit more narrow again.

I'd like to move to the business level of becoming more independent towards the US hyperscalers.

How can this be a strategic advantage for a company?

Because it takes quite some investments to do so and a bold decision to do so.

So can it be a strategic advantage?

Well, thank you for doing so much research for this podcast.

We've almost come to the end of this podcast, but to round up, I have the same question to all our guests.

And that's the following.

Is there one belief about data centers that you think we should question more often?

Indeed, that's something that we can picture.

Thank you.

It's very concrete.

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