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But I can see how that would affect a business to the point where it's no longer actually fulfilling its mission.

It's now just trying to make money and making bad decisions and then goes out of business is your point.

It's interesting as well, something you mentioned.

I just remember Desmond Morris, who is a writer.

Of course, Naked Ape.

Naked Ape, Human Zoo, and a bunch of others.

But one of the things you talked about is the length of women's skirts goes up, so the skirts get longer when economic times are bad.

So 2009 would have been exactly the right time to pivot to longer rather than shorter.

what's interesting is you see both in this country and in many other countries now actually religious attendance of church at least is actually or other religions is on the rise slowly particularly among young people so it may be happening voluntarily uh which is how you you'd hope it happens really i guess uh rob it's been an absolute pleasure thank you for coming what is your book called and you mentioned it comes out in november when will people be able to pre-order it

We'll put the link in the description if it's available when this episode comes out.

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That's really special.

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