Francis Foster

They're opposites of each other, you mean.

I don't mean to be pedantic either, but this way it gets more difficult because someone could actually be in the center, meaning they have some center right opinions and some center left opinions that don't neatly align with either party.

And I think the existence of those people is probably quite underestimated, even in a country as polarized as this one, just from talking to people.

Yeah.

But dialectic, I guess I think I agree with you.

Well, the position relative to the center.

Mixture of both.

I don't know in his case.

I think in his case, actually, the philosophical underpinning is people who don't agree with him are bad people, and therefore they need to be destroyed by any means necessary.

I think that's it.

So it's about power, really.

Which I think is an accurate description of what happens when the right looks at the extremes of the left and the left looks at the extremes of the right.

But what I'm trying to get in with you first of all, because it's interesting to me, because our country, hard as it is to believe, if you look at social media, is not nearly as divided as the US, right?

Like the binariness of the US is kind of weird for us a little bit coming from the UK.

So I guess to me, it's always weird when people

Well, I was going to say acknowledge, but I don't want to impose my view because Americans know their country better than I do.

It's weird to me how little people give faith to the other side.

And I see this on the left, and I see this on the right.

Whereas my model for the world is there's really good people within the 80% middle, and then there's pretty out there people in the extremes.

And what we see on the internet is those people arguing and pretending they represent their entire movements.