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Francisco Segovia

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313 total appearances

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

People, teachers remain being a target of the government.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

So then with my ex-wife, who was expecting, she was six months pregnant.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

We had to migrate.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

I look for the Canadian embassy and look for political asylum.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

but there was no Canadian embassy.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

And then the only idea, some relative says, why don't you come to the United States?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

I hesitated a little bit about coming to the United States because understanding the role of the United States in El Salvador, but eventually we couldn't, didn't have any other options.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

So we did, and like many millions of people and many Salvadorians in the 80s, I traveled north without documents.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

Crossed three borders and the last one, United States without documents.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

Yeah.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

At that point.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

At that point in the 90s, Tijuana and...

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

They were building the wall.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

There was no fence.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

There was no fence at that moment.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

I do remember that basically we went to the border and from there we just crossed.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

And I mean, there were hundreds of people trying to cross and agents were chasing many people.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

There were so many people trying to cross and that's what happened to us.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

Right, right.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

So we went to Florida where our family lived.