Frank Caliendo

And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.

I'm talking Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark.

Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing.

And we're still chasing it.

Steve Burns, Dustin Ross.

Because you find it important to be a good person while you're here on earth?

Or are you a good person because you're afraid?

Because that's two different intentions, bro.

Absolutely.

And that's two different levels of trust.

I want you to just really be a good person.

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Let me get to Fernando Mendoza.

Now, once again, we taped the interview on Monday.

We wanted to play it here once we got to Pittsburgh.

And he joined us on behalf of Pfizer, the Every Breakthrough Matters campaign.

Every step makes a difference, starting with your cancer screening.

And the first question I asked Fernando Mendoza, if I would have told him last year he was going to win the Heisman, what would he have said?

Okay, but you had to have doubts about yourself that you leave Cal, you go to Indiana, and all of a sudden you're getting your lunch handed to you.