Frank Seravalli

That's so old.

No, I'm saying he's done this for 1,600 games.

It's a long time.

And so...

You know, one question I'd have for him would be just about how much he's evolved over the course of these years.

I think you're always changing, trying to get better, trying to work at it.

And at some point...

And look, I've covered him and I've seen him for a very long time, almost since just after his 2009.

So a huge chunk of his career, I've had a front row seat to it.

He just looked a little tired to me.

And I wonder if this season, the first one that he hasn't worked, maybe that have done some good.

Look, I know I mentioned him before, and I'm not making the Oilers list, but if you're going solely based on guys who have won a Stanley Cup previously, again, a reminder that only three people in the history of the game has done it, and Peter Laviolette has been on a two-decade-long quest to go do it again with another team, and has come as close as possible and hasn't done it.

So I wouldn't make that...

I'm going to mention again, and also an Alberta native, is Dave Haxtell.

I think you have to consider his experience.

And he's got this presence, this gravitas.

You mentioned gravitas.

But he kind of, doesn't he remind you of Knobloch a bit?

Not even a little bit.

Have you spent five minutes with him?