Frankie

It's so great.

But man, the certification is really hard.

And so that's kind of where Quick Organic's

Um, and then it also takes three years to transition a piece of land.

So the, the last prohibitive substance, whatever that date is that was put on that land, that's where the clock starts ticking.

So to your question, it's, it's a long process.

And during that process, you've got increased costs, you know, due to just different inputs, um, different ways of being able to fund that land.

And, um,

So it's kind of a daunting thing when you think about transitioning.

But you transitioned how many acres?

I think actually it was his comment was, you know, I love growing organically.

Like, I love what we're doing, but the certification stresses me out.

And every year we get audited, and that inspector comes, and I'm nervous that I've got things wrong.

He's like, why isn't there a turbo tax for this process?

Mm-hmm.

I said, well, there's got to be.

We just never looked for one.

So that's where I, in early 2020, went and started kind of like searching around and saying, like, where's the software platform for the farmer?

And there wasn't one.

And it led me to a conversation with the head of the National Organic Program, Dr. Jennifer Tucker.