Fred Turner
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 18 Jul
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acquired a company in Southern California to get the same license for 27 million.
Which is roughly its market value if there is not a pandemic.
It's a lot easier to build a company the second time around.
Like there's so many mistakes the first time where you just, you don't know how to do like thing X, like the first time you fire somebody, like how to build a good interview process, how to build a pipeline.
Like there's so many things that it's really easy to screw up the first time around.
And then when you've seen them go wrong, it's so much easier to build it the second time around.
And so like, yes, it's the worst thing in the world to go, you know, to go through is having something you poured all that time and energy into and like, you know, the seven day work weeks and that
late nights basically go to zero but as long as through that you you learn and you take those lessons and you go solve an even bigger problem i think you know you got something out of it okay and so this company is like winding down yeah need to find something else what happens now yeah originally the pitch behind curative was we were going to also solve sepsis but in a completely different way it's
A lot of pivots.
So when we were going through all of this work with the sepsis diagnostics, one of the things that kept jumping out in the data was when you look at other companies that have tried to do sepsis diagnostics, because we were not the first, a bunch of big pharma companies like Roche spent a couple of hundred million, Siemens spent a hundred million, a bunch of companies spent a lot of money trying to make better sepsis diagnostics.
kind of this like graveyard of dead sepsis companies.
And when you dig into the data, you find this really interesting thing that in academic medical centers, when you try out these new sepsis tests, they work great and you see much better outcomes and you see people live longer and it's saving lives.
And then you try to replicate that in bigger studies and they fail.
And when you dig in and look why, it's when you expand that aperture of who's in the trial out of the academic medical center and into community hospitals.
What's happening in a community hospital is they're so understaffed, they're so overwhelmed with the volume, particularly in the emergency room, they don't suspect sepsis fast enough.
And as I said earlier, it's every hour is 12% increase in mortality.
And the intervention that they have to do is actually pretty severe.
They basically put a big IV line usually in your femoral artery.
They're pumping you full of fluids.
They're pumping you full of nasty antibiotics that have bad side effects.
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