Friedberg

That anticipation is really- It is the experience of taking a scoop of ice cream. And John, as a fellow East Coaster, I grew up in Brooklyn. I went to Fordham and spent my first 30 years in Manhattan and Brooklyn. What you're experiencing here is also the two most important things to Silicon Valley people, private aviation, and then the next greatest height, owning a sports team.

So this is our version of sex and ripe fruit is private aviation and then owning the Knicks. The two things I'm working towards. We could sit here and talk about the dopamine release of this, but it is true that there is an end state to all of this. Private aviation and owning a BAT, apparently.

So this is our version of sex and ripe fruit is private aviation and then owning the Knicks. The two things I'm working towards. We could sit here and talk about the dopamine release of this, but it is true that there is an end state to all of this. Private aviation and owning a BAT, apparently.

You had to have a skill. You had to play guitar. You had to be a rock singer, et cetera. And I think kids have actually, I give kids a lot of credit. I think they put it together pretty wisely. They watched Kim Kardashian during this period of time we're talking about release a sex tape or... you know, whatever, participate in the releasing of a sex tape. I'm not sure exactly the details of it.

You had to have a skill. You had to play guitar. You had to be a rock singer, et cetera. And I think kids have actually, I give kids a lot of credit. I think they put it together pretty wisely. They watched Kim Kardashian during this period of time we're talking about release a sex tape or... you know, whatever, participate in the releasing of a sex tape. I'm not sure exactly the details of it.

Get a bunch of likes, get a bunch of followers, get a private jet, get a TV show. And to their point, this does actually make sense. It is a sequence of events that other people have now done. They're not wrong. There is a clear path.

Get a bunch of likes, get a bunch of followers, get a private jet, get a TV show. And to their point, this does actually make sense. It is a sequence of events that other people have now done. They're not wrong. There is a clear path.

Thoughtful proposals in your book, in the latest book, The Anxious Generation. Two things struck me as absolute no-brainers. And you are currently in a war with people trying to, I think, maybe who got to these topics before you and maybe feel some ownership of them. And you've basically become...

Thoughtful proposals in your book, in the latest book, The Anxious Generation. Two things struck me as absolute no-brainers. And you are currently in a war with people trying to, I think, maybe who got to these topics before you and maybe feel some ownership of them. And you've basically become...

I don't know, the lightning rod for all of this discussion now, and people are coming to you as the expert, I get the sense some of these sociologists are a little upset that you've taken their shine. Putting it aside, because you do reference them and you give them a lot of credit in the book, the pouches at school and the phone lockers, maybe you could touch on that.

I don't know, the lightning rod for all of this discussion now, and people are coming to you as the expert, I get the sense some of these sociologists are a little upset that you've taken their shine. Putting it aside, because you do reference them and you give them a lot of credit in the book, the pouches at school and the phone lockers, maybe you could touch on that.

And then what's the proper age for kids to get a phone? Those two things, to me, seem like the most pragmatic proposals in the book.

And then what's the proper age for kids to get a phone? Those two things, to me, seem like the most pragmatic proposals in the book.

What's the reaction been to this proposal? Amazing. It's not like, it's not like Matt is going to wake up someday and Zuckerberg is going to have this epiphany that he's done more damage to children than the tobacco.

What's the reaction been to this proposal? Amazing. It's not like, it's not like Matt is going to wake up someday and Zuckerberg is going to have this epiphany that he's done more damage to children than the tobacco.

And in fairness, if the protesters were simply doing a sit-in, they've got a long history of people sitting in in the 60s and 70s protesting different things. It's virtuous. It's this sort of tipping over into intimidation when five or six people surround a student or chase them into a library or bang on the doors.

And in fairness, if the protesters were simply doing a sit-in, they've got a long history of people sitting in in the 60s and 70s protesting different things. It's virtuous. It's this sort of tipping over into intimidation when five or six people surround a student or chase them into a library or bang on the doors.

I mean, if you were to just, I always use my friend Sam Harris's technique, which is Just replace, you know, go through each, you know, person on the victim Olympics and the identity politics bingo card.

I mean, if you were to just, I always use my friend Sam Harris's technique, which is Just replace, you know, go through each, you know, person on the victim Olympics and the identity politics bingo card.

And just replace it. OK, now white students are chasing black students. Black students are chasing Hispanic students. Hispanic students are chasing Japanese students. Lesbians are chasing hetero people, whatever it is. Pick your from the bingo card and then just see if this stands up. And if it had been black students being surrounded by white students, people would be like, what?