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And I think, Freeberg, you're the tail end of Gen X. We would certainly take in the Gen X draft. When you look at this, The TV analogy is so good because we did have a moment in time where TV got faster and was gamified. It was called MTV. And they were like, hey, let's make this a lot faster. You're right. Now you're just going to watch three minutes. It's called a music video.

So we're taking your 30 minutes down to three. And then in that video, the directors of music videos became the directors of movies and TV shows later, that's where they cut their teeth on little $50,000 projects. But because they had to do so many cuts in those projects,

So we're taking your 30 minutes down to three. And then in that video, the directors of music videos became the directors of movies and TV shows later, that's where they cut their teeth on little $50,000 projects. But because they had to do so many cuts in those projects,

to tell the story in three minutes or four minutes of a Michael Jackson video, that made its way into things like the Sopranos, which had a much greater density of characters or Game of Thrones today. And then that's given way now to whatever the hell is going on on TikTok to our brains. So I'm curious what you think that final jump, the TikTok jump is doing to kids' brains.

to tell the story in three minutes or four minutes of a Michael Jackson video, that made its way into things like the Sopranos, which had a much greater density of characters or Game of Thrones today. And then that's given way now to whatever the hell is going on on TikTok to our brains. So I'm curious what you think that final jump, the TikTok jump is doing to kids' brains.

And the prolonged dopamine release, this is not good for your brain. It's one thing to find a ripe pear or a mate and have sex and have this dopamine release. It's like, okay, yeah, let's find some more ripe pears, eat a couple more until we're full. There's kind of a system that gets shut off naturally in nature. And with sex, like, okay, yeah, we've had this orgasmic release.

And the prolonged dopamine release, this is not good for your brain. It's one thing to find a ripe pear or a mate and have sex and have this dopamine release. It's like, okay, yeah, let's find some more ripe pears, eat a couple more until we're full. There's kind of a system that gets shut off naturally in nature. And with sex, like, okay, yeah, we've had this orgasmic release.

We don't need to do it again for some period of time. And not to get too graphic here about pears and ripe pears, but... You know, when you're doing TikTok, there is an addiction here that to Skinner, to your Skinner point, variable interval and it's variable reward. Something could be the Hawk to a girl and everybody in the world is like, oh, my God, sex. And, you know, she's spicy or whatever.

We don't need to do it again for some period of time. And not to get too graphic here about pears and ripe pears, but... You know, when you're doing TikTok, there is an addiction here that to Skinner, to your Skinner point, variable interval and it's variable reward. Something could be the Hawk to a girl and everybody in the world is like, oh, my God, sex. And, you know, she's spicy or whatever.

But then there's another person on the other side of that and a society that So you have the dopamine, you know, very primal thing happening, but then you also have this next layer you're talking about socially, which is now what happens to that girl? What happens to her family? Is she gonna kill herself? Is she going to become a reality TV star? I don't know.

But then there's another person on the other side of that and a society that So you have the dopamine, you know, very primal thing happening, but then you also have this next layer you're talking about socially, which is now what happens to that girl? What happens to her family? Is she gonna kill herself? Is she going to become a reality TV star? I don't know.

I mean, we're in uncharted territory. No human in evolution did not anticipate a billion people, a million people understanding one person's or digesting one person's most candid, worst, embarrassing or thrilling moment, did it?

I mean, we're in uncharted territory. No human in evolution did not anticipate a billion people, a million people understanding one person's or digesting one person's most candid, worst, embarrassing or thrilling moment, did it?

Your brain is not developed. You don't have any foundation. Yeah, and then some permanent solution for a temporary problem seems like a fine idea.

Your brain is not developed. You don't have any foundation. Yeah, and then some permanent solution for a temporary problem seems like a fine idea.

Which, let's be candid, watching the funniest thing that happened on planet Earth in the last hour is by definition going to be funnier or more entertaining than the three of us having a burger. That is a great way to put it.

Which, let's be candid, watching the funniest thing that happened on planet Earth in the last hour is by definition going to be funnier or more entertaining than the three of us having a burger. That is a great way to put it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That anticipation is really- It is the experience of taking a scoop of ice cream. And John, as a fellow East Coaster, I grew up in Brooklyn. I went to Fordham and spent my first 30 years in Manhattan and Brooklyn. What you're experiencing here is also the two most important things to Silicon Valley people, private aviation, and then the next greatest height, owning a sports team.