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Gabriel Gatehouse

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The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

A bit like Brazil, they've got a military dictatorship that a bit like Brazil is kind of supported by the Americans as a kind of bulwark against the spread of socialism in Latin America.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

So this is one match that Argentina needs to win against Peru, and they need to win by four clear goals.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

And just before the match starts, the Argentinian dictator, another general, General Videla, he marches into the bowels of the stadium and he goes into the dressing room, but not the Argentinian dressing room, right?

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

He goes into the Peruvian dressing room.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

And he gives a speech.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

And now what exactly he said has been disputed.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

Some of the players, the Peruvian players, have alleged that he alternately either threatened them or offered bribes to Peru as a country if they were to perhaps not play at their best.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

Now, this is disputed and there's no recording of the conversation.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

What I think no one disputes is that Peru had an absolutely disastrous match, lost by six goals, and Argentina went on to win the competition.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

Yeah, so this was a real surprise to me because I actually knew about Argentina in 1978 from early on when I started doing this, but I kind of dismissed it because it didn't seem to have an obvious CIA connection.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

It was a sort of tangential.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

But then I found out about this Kissinger thing.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

So it is true that Kissinger was at the match.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

Obviously, by 1978, Kissinger is no longer Secretary of State.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

He's no longer in office.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

He's a private citizen.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

But, you know, Kissinger was kind of well known for his Machiavellian dark arts and supporting various dictatorships in Latin America.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

Now, some of the Peruvian players have alleged that Kissinger came with General Videla in his little visit to the dressing room.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

And after Videla had made his little speech, apparently, allegedly, Kissinger said, good luck.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

And then off he went.