Gadi Shamia

I joined generally because I really like the space, and I really like Tiago, the founder.

So it was two combinations of

Really interesting market.

The call center space is $22 billion market.

It's still dominated by old players like Avaya and Cisco and Genesis that sell the same system for 20, 30 years.

So one side of it was, here's a market which is huge and ready for disruption.

The other was, we already had a proven product.

Tiago and team, although the team was very small,

Built a very impressive product that had a couple hundred customers even by the time I joined.

I really liked the product and continued using it for over a year by the time I joined.

And the third was I really liked Tiago.

When you join a COO, you cannot not like the CEO and you cannot not want to engage with the CEO.

I really thought we can be really good partners.

I think that the fact I'm still here over two years after proves to you that it's probably correct.

Diego was a co-founder.

He had another founder that after four, four and a half years left to do her own thing.

Yeah, I was there.

And I think A is a personal issue, so I don't want to get into the specifics of this situation.

But I can tell you what I know from experience with other companies.

In the best of companies, as you mentioned, some founders leave.