Garrison Davis

what are sometimes recent objections to Maduro sometimes which are completely insane but like it's it's a complete failing of us on the left to not talk to people from Venezuela maybe you could just share with us like how it's been since January to see it offered as a binary right you can either exist under Maduro and people can live in poverty and suffer

Or you can watch your country get bombed and choose MCM, I guess.

None of this is happening, but I think what you would like.

Can you share how that's been?

Oh my God, it's been...

It's been a wild ride.

I mean, there's a lot of different emotions going on, which is one of the things that I think a lot of people don't understand that are not Venezuelan.

But yeah, just a lot of emotions.

I mean, I remember when it first happened, I immediately messaged my family back home.

So my brother, my mom, my grandparents.

My family is not from Caracas, so they were all right.

They were just saying, you know, it's calm wherever we are.

It's fine.

But yeah, the immediate thing was concern.

Then obviously I couldn't sleep that night because of everything that was going on.

I live in Europe.

So by that time it was like, I don't know, it was like five in the morning or something, eight in the morning.

I don't remember.

It was it's all just a blur to me now.

But I remember I was just like on my phone seeing the updates like every minute trying to contact my friends who did live in Caracas.