Garrison Davis

The kinds of things you just, you don't want to see from an organization like the SPLC.

So yeah, like that happened.

And then bringing it back to Berkeley Springs, I was told not to go anywhere, but I needed to keep working on the book.

So I guess I understand why some of the reviewers call it disturbing, but that sort of full circle, that sort of personal closure, you know, obviously things weren't ideal, right?

You lost your job, but I don't know, like things came full circle and the people that you went there to write about took care of you and you, I don't know, you all continue along your way as the world falls apart.

I don't think that they come across as like perfect either.

I mean, like that's what I'm really hopeful for.

No, I mean, they're all complicated people.

You know, I wanted to avoid like this sort of wishy-washy utopian, like, I'm an ally, you know, and it's like, yeah, actually the people who are allies have all kinds of issues.

They have marital problems.

Maybe some of them are like behave badly in one thing or whatever.

We're all people trying to live.

very rapidly by the likes of Steve Bannon and Brimlow and others.

It was a collective push to take the existing right-wing monster and set it in this direction.

What this is doing to us

it's a very intimate look at what that is like for individual people.

You know, we were all experiencing having right-wing violence foisted upon us from above, but this is, I don't know.

There were these like small moments of like physical intimacy.

Like when you're, you're at the castle for the party and you know, you and Peter Brimlow are exchanging like this lighthearted moment and you reach out and you put your hand on his shoulder instinctively.

When you're sharing laughter with someone, you put out, you put your hand on his shoulder instinctively.