Gary Brecka

didn't really feel you fit in in school, moved around a lot, financial struggles, and then sort of just went on your own personal journey of becoming this global nomad for a while, which I found really fascinating, which is how you met your wife, right?

I mean, had you not done that, which is, it's always like so fascinating because, you know, here was this just global nomadism going on where you're trying to figure out life and, you know,

you meet your wife, you know, just randomly.

What is it, a nightclub in Prague, I think?

Or in- Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Sao Paulo, Brazil, yeah.

At first she rejected him, but he reeled her back in.

But what's even more fascinating to me is,

After you wrote New York Times bestselling book, which is right here on the table, and sold more than 20 million copies, had achieved a level of socioeconomic success, probably also personal success, you kind of arrived.

That's when you hit the burnout phase.

Yeah.

I believe that this happens to more of us than will actually admit that.

And I'm wondering if you just unpack that for my audience.

Sure.

Yeah, it's like if you had a big exit, you can't like bitch about it.

Exactly.

Didn't you just sell your company for a lot of money?

Yeah, you know, I had a tipping point in my life, and I've never really thoroughly unpacked it and examined it, but for 20 years I was a mortality expert for large life insurance companies, and we were attempting to predict mortality to the month, and it was some of the most accurate science in the world.

And at that time, like most people, I was in the pursuit of happiness.

But happiness was a destination that I was going to arrive at at some point.