Gary Brecka

Unfortunately, they were murdered, not in this small town, up in the city in Des Moines when they were splitting time with their moms.

I think they just got caught up in- The wrong crowd.

In the wrong crowd as they were getting older and they were splitting time between mom and dad.

So I started looking for ways, self-help.

I'm like, because my brother dropped out of high school.

He just, he locked himself in his room, said, I'm not, I'm not going to school.

He gained over 150 pounds.

And, and like, like at one point he was, I'm pretty sure he was 300 and some pounds at, at five foot five.

I mean, he, and he, he just locked himself in his room.

Wouldn't leave.

Wouldn't like, wouldn't do anything, but just eat.

And so I, I, I'm like, I'm like, I, you're, he's going to die.

And I'm like, I need to... And this was seven, eight months that this happened.

Because this was January, they were killed.

And I didn't...

get to this point until fall right um so i just got on google and i'm like self-help books yeah and sure enough first thing that pops up is can't hurt me by david goggins and i and and the only reason the only reason i was attracted to this book is because it was wrote by a navy seal i had no idea and i'm like oh like this guy's in the military writes a book you know like cool let's read it

Reading that book, you know, I was like, Marcus, like, we're going to read this book together.

Reading that book flipped my entire perspective on everything.

And it wasn't the fact of, like, the stay hard, woo-woo bullshit is not what drew me to Goggins.

It was the, if you go and you read those first three chapters, he was abused.