Gary Brecka

I think you're going to find today's podcast so insightful, so helpful.

Welcome to the podcast, Mark Manson.

Thanks for having me.

It's great to be here.

I'm pumped that you're here.

You know, there's kind of an interesting theme that runs through a lot of my podcast casts, and I don't think that you're very different.

I find that the most impactful people, like the people that are really moving the needle, that are the most passionate, the most driven and making the greatest impact have solved some kind of problem in their life.

And when I was looking back over your life and your history and some of your content, you didn't have a particularly easy time when you were younger.

Right.

and I don't want to mischaracterize it, but you almost felt like an outsider in your teens.

And you had a lot of what I would call typical traumatic events that so many people watching this podcast have grown up with, you know, divorced parents.

didn't really feel you fit in in school, moved around a lot, financial struggles, and then sort of just went on your own personal journey of becoming this global nomad for a while, which I found really fascinating, which is how you met your wife, right?

I mean, had you not done that, which is, it's always like so fascinating because, you know, here was this just global nomadism going on where you're trying to figure out life and, you know,

you meet your wife, you know, just randomly.

What is it, a nightclub in Prague, I think?

Or in- Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Sao Paulo, Brazil, yeah.

At first she rejected him, but he reeled her back in.

But what's even more fascinating to me is,

After you wrote New York Times bestselling book, which is right here on the table, and sold more than 20 million copies, had achieved a level of socioeconomic success, probably also personal success, you kind of arrived.