Gary Brecka

I totally agree with that.

Is there anything that you know of to actually increase the density of these fibroblasts?

Perfect.

And what increases the density of these fibroblasts?

That's phenomenal.

And then just winding things out, I won't take you deep down the rabbit hole of peptides, but I'm a huge fan of peptides and we use them internally for lots of things.

What do you use?

BPC-157 for wound healing and repair, something called TB-500 for wound healing and repair.

So like post-surgical recovery, anytime someone has like a knee, hip, shoulder, rotator cuff injury, low back, especially if it's chronic and persistent.

You can do it sub-Q.

Yeah, you can do it sub-Q.

BPC is probably one of the few peptides that's tolerated well orally because it's a gastric peptide.

But we find the combination of those two works really well.

GHKCU, copper peptide, NAD, I know you're a fan of NAD too, 50 milligrams a day in sub-Q injection or transdermal patch.

In full disclosure, I'm a partner in a peptide manufacturer called Peptual by Vesalius Lab Sciences.

And I chose these guys because they manufacture in a CGMP certified lab.

They don't source ingredients from China and the peptides,

really work, a lot of the over-the-counter peptides have all kinds of nasty things in them, heavy metals, fillers, binders, and very often they're not even peptides.

And it's hard for a consumer to know because, I mean, how are you going to evaluate whether or not this white capsule is rice bran or a peptide, other than by the fact that it either worked for you or didn't work.

But not being a dermatologist, but having seen...